P55A-UD4 startup "BSD" ~ why?

[Searcher1]

Hi Searcher

You were quite right about loading the Optimised BIOS Default settings after updating the BIOS which will put most thing to the best settings that can be made for general systems. Obviously the settings can't be optimal for every different setup so we have to tweak a few to make things the best performance they can be. I will leavre it to Lsdmeasap to explain exactly what he has altered and why.

Ah! point taken    I look forward to his expanded feedback.  On a related note ~ I was just going to check to see if Gigabyte had posted any BIOS updates and found a few G-Skill USA forum posts about BSD in various systems (Intel & AMD) and speed reading them some of the"settings" changes look kind of familiar to Lsdmeasap's ones but likewise with no expansion   Now is there some common denominator about G-Skill RAM

For the record this is the first time in the few builds done to date that I have had to tweak voltage & RAM settings!

Incidently this mornings bootup was a slow one and I thought darn another BSD coming.........but no it booted AOK, serenity or what 


Edit update - F15 is the most current BIOS

[Dark Mantis]

You will probably find that a lot of the US posts were Lsdmeasap's! The thing is that everything is getting so perfected now down to the finest detail that one manufacturers memory might be slightly different to another's even though they both build within the guidlines for that spec.

[Searcher1]

Bump ^^

Hi Lsdmeasap

Any chance of the insight answers I asked about a couple of posts back???

TIA 

[Searcher1]

Bump^^     

[Dark Mantis]

It might be an idea to PM him as he will then get a notification of it. He doesn't always drop in the forum regularaly depending on how busy he is.

[Lsdmeasap]

What specifically are you wanting to know?   I can't explain each setting to you as that would take forever 

[Searcher1]

What specifically are you wanting to know?   I can't explain each setting to you as that would take forever 

Hi Lsadmeasap

Okey dokey, it was these specific chnages you recommend, it was these 4 settings where you gave speciific change suggestions ~ I hope you can clue me in as to the "why" change these and what effect such changes deliver i.e. not every setting just the ones you say should be changed 

PS For the record I had another freeze whilst having the forum page "on top" ~ only left it for 15 minuntes!!!

System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...............[AUTO]  << Set 10

>>>>> Advanced Clock Control <<<<<

Performance Enhance (SPD).................. [Turbo] << Set Extreme

Advanced Voltage Settings:

******Mother Board Voltage Control ******
Voltage Types............Normal......Current
--------------------------------------------


QPI/VTT Voltage..........1.100v.....[AUTO]  << Set 1.2-1.3


>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage..............1.500v.....[AUTO]  << Set 1.5-1.55

[Searcher1]

Oh, if you have any insight on this thread please do dropin and advise 

http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php/topic,5073.0.html

[Lsdmeasap]

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply back to you, just been so busy the past week at work I haven't had much time to keep up with my online duties 

So, did you already try the changes I suggested making or not, and if you did what issues do you currently still have and what are your exact settings now?


Here's why I suggested what you asked about

System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...............[AUTO]  << Set 10  << This set's the memory speed, at 133 Bclk x 10 = 1333Mhz

>>>>> Advanced Clock Control <<<<<

Performance Enhance (SPD).................. [Turbo] << Set Extreme  <<  This is what I find works best for many boards and many users, you can play around with any setting you like, but I'd really suggest you start with extreme as often in X58 the lower ones have been found to cause more issues than extreme.

Advanced Voltage Settings:

******Mother Board Voltage Control ******
Voltage Types............Normal......Current
--------------------------------------------


QPI/VTT Voltage..........1.100v.....[AUTO]  << Set 1.2-1.3  << This is the voltage for the memory controller, you may or may not need this much (Maybe more even but not likely).   This is all dependent on your CPU, they all differ, so you may need to use more/less and this all depends on the amount of memory you have, then uncore speed, memory speed and amount, and memory timings.


>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage..............1.500v.....[AUTO]  << Set 1.5-1.55  <<<  Your memory is rated at 1.5v, but this is per kit, so I suggested 1.5V per spec or up to 1.55 in case you needed a little more due to having two kits as this is sometimes needed if you are using more than one set.

[Searcher1]

Hi

Thanks for the insight, I have yet to set them as I do like to know what things do before I 'act'.

For the record this is a P55A chipset board with a pair of G-skill 4GB i.e. 8GB installed.

Based on this info are the settings you suggest still applicable as you mention the X58 chipset???

TIA for the added feedback.

[Searcher1]

I forgot to ask???

Though the suggested changes look modest would you deem them to be overclocking???

[Dark Mantis]

I suppose that anything where you are technically altering the standard timings and voltages of  a system is overclocking but it is not in the real sense of the phrase.

[Searcher1]

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply back to you, just been so busy the past week at work I haven't had much time to keep up with my online duties 

So, did you already try the changes I suggested making or not, and if you did what issues do you currently still have and what are your exact settings now?


Here's why I suggested what you asked about

System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...............[AUTO]  << Set 10  << This set's the memory speed, at 133 Bclk x 10 = 1333Mhz

>>>>> Advanced Clock Control <<<<<

Performance Enhance (SPD).................. [Turbo] << Set Extreme  <<  This is what I find works best for many boards and many users, you can play around with any setting you like, but I'd really suggest you start with extreme as often in X58 the lower ones have been found to cause more issues than extreme.

Advanced Voltage Settings:

******Mother Board Voltage Control ******
Voltage Types............Normal......Current
--------------------------------------------


QPI/VTT Voltage..........1.100v.....[AUTO]  << Set 1.2-1.3  << This is the voltage for the memory controller, you may or may not need this much (Maybe more even but not likely).   This is all dependent on your CPU, they all differ, so you may need to use more/less and this all depends on the amount of memory you have, then uncore speed, memory speed and amount, and memory timings.


>>> DRAM
DRAM Voltage..............1.500v.....[AUTO]  << Set 1.5-1.55  <<<  Your memory is rated at 1.5v, but this is per kit, so I suggested 1.5V per spec or up to 1.55 in case you needed a little more due to having two kits as this is sometimes needed if you are using more than one set.

Right settings changed

For the record in the BIOS the QPI/VTT available voltages close to what you suggest were 1.21v and the next one up was 1.23v but this was purple coloured, so will be wary of going above 1.21v (for now).

For the DRAM voltage I set it at 1.50v and the next step up is 1.56v  Interestingly I noted on the HW Monitor program the DDR voltage before the change was 1.57v i.e. set to auto is apparently quite high.  After the change HW Mon now reports 1.52v

Will have to see how well it behaves over the next many days as I did have a couple of BSDs in the past 3 days days

[Dark Mantis]

I expect that your Dram voltage will be too low still and you will need to increase it as already advised.

[Searcher1]

I expect that your Dram voltage will be too low still and you will need to increase it as already advised.

Granted???  Though I am starting with the advised changes (Lsdmeasap said 1.5 to 1.55v) and bearing in mind if 'auto' was running the RAM volts at 1.57 and I had the trouble.........just what will be right???